“And it came to pass on the other hand, that the Nephites did build them up and support them, beginning at the more wicked part of them, until they had overspread all the land of the Nephites, and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils, and to join with them in their secret murders and combinations.”

Helaman 6:38

I recently had a discussion with my dad.  As we were driving to a small dairy farm in rural Wisconsin to pick up some raw milk for our personal consumption (personal aside:  I LOVE raw milk), he asked me my thoughts on the tea party movement.  If any of you were to ask me the same question, I’d give you the same answer I gave him:  “It’s not my cup of tea.”

Okay, that’s not really what I told him, but that was what my response meant.  I don’t usually think that fast on my feet, as my wife would readily admit.  While I mostly agree with the foundational ideals of the tea party movement, I’m hesitant to join or support any group because of the general ignorance of the politics which trouble our nation and the ability to easily co-opt the group for ulterior motives.  For instance, I firmly believe – and ample evidence suggests – that the tea party has been co-opted by republican operatives (Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc.) to redirect the efforts toward and underneath the umbrella of the official establishment.  Their goal:  to ensure that the “official” republican opinion makers – the false priests if you will – will continue to corral the general public and keep them from really connecting the dots to what is going on in society.

You see, most people will never admit, and I will give an example shortly, is that it’s neither a Republican nor a Democrat issue.  It’s an entire failed system, a systemic issue.  Whether or not our nation will ever wake up and realize the false dichotomy that plagues our political system remains to be seen.  I have my doubts, but do hope that eventually mainstream Americans will reject the two party system.  I recently posted an interview of Thomas Barnett of the band Strike Anywhere and would redirect readers there to see how I view our current political system.  It is an interview that is more than worthwhile given the breadth of understanding Barnett portrays and how well spoken he is about the issues which trouble us.  The reason I bring up that interview is because (a) I agree with what he said, but also because (b) he speaks of the corporate interests which influence our political environment, an ominously similar issue as the “spoils” the Nephites dealt with.

This all serves as a mere preface to my earlier conversation.  During this conversation, my father related a discussion he had with one of his acquaintances in the LDS temple he works in on a weekly basis.  One of his fellow workers is known for his penchant for amassing and storing supplies (guns, ammunition, etc).  My father approached him one day in the temple and asked him what he thought we needed to do to get out of the economic problems we’re facing.  This person’s response surprised my father at the time, to say nothing of the reaction I had when my father related the story to me.  This man’s response highlights the utter lack of understanding prevalent in both the tea party and the general populous.  I readily admit that this man’s response is likely not indicative of what most people would say, ceteris paribus, but, to me, it highlights the general ignorance one sees regarding the political system.

How would you fix the economic situation we find the nation and world in?  Well, let me tell you that this man’s belief is so utterly ignorant of the current situation, utterly ignorant of the political processes, utterly ignorant of our “awful situation” that I don’t know where to begin, but begin I shall.

His response?  In a much more concise and direct manner, he stated: get r.1.d of Obama.  You’d do well to ponder other ways to say “get rid,” because that’s what this man said.  In the temple, presumably in temple garb, awaiting “further light and knowledge.”  Though I’m tempted to throw an ill-advised joke here, I’ll just state that the “further light and knowledge” must have been going in one ear and out the other, but I digress.  I won’t relate the precise words he used, because this is a “family friendly” site, but you can use your God-given intellect to divine what this man stated.  To say that I was surprised or shock was an understatement.  Dumbfounded more like it.  I guess I knew that somewhere, in the recesses of this nation and society, some harbored such feelings.  What I did not guess, however, was that these feelings were shared by some who should know better, someone presumably willing to spend all day working in the temple, and yet come out with no clue as to what we’re facing.  Wasn’t even on my radar screen, to be honest.

How, you ask, does this relate to Helaman 6, the tea party movement and the “spoils”?  First, we must realize that it really doesn’t matter which president is in office.  For the last 100 years (dating back to at least 1913), if not much, much longer (look for the quote from Andrew Jackson and connect a few dots), all presidents have been doing their bidding at the direction of others.  Be it corporate interests, Wall Street, international power brokers or others, president’s act at the behest of others.  They rarely make a decision without consulting with special “advisors,” most of which hail from either Wall Street or extremely influential international power brokers who dictate and lead policy.  Whether it’s the Bilderberg Group, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission or any number of similarly nefarious groups, it really doesn’t matter who is in office, be they Republican, Democrat, or Stupicancrat.  It is all the same. If someone really took a step back at the last 20-30 years, they’d see similar policies, a similar direction and similar actions all in spite of the letter (‘R’ or ‘D’) following someone’s name.  Be it Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II or Obama, it’s been one continual march in the same degraditive process.  Obama is a mere continuation of Bush II.  That’s the game of this whole thing.  Pitting two parties against each other, when they are merely two wings of the same bird heading in the same direction, is nothing more than classic dialectics aimed at confusing those who think they are doing the electing.  The false priests of the main stream media spin fantastic stories dripping with enough convincing rhetoric that we buy into their spin and believe the party line, especially as it relates to violence and the false gods we worship.

Mayer Amschel Rothschild once stated, “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes her laws.”  It doesn’t matter who makes the laws because the money supply will be controlled.  Give someone control of the money supply, and the ability to create upheaval via depressions, phony wars/conflicts, economic disasters or inflation, and politicians will soon be beholden to these same powers.  G. Edward Griffen has spoken and written extensively on this topic, and any reader would do well to understand or at least give cursory attention to what he’s talking about.  Mayer Amschel’s wife once infamously stated – or perhaps not, as most of the general populous pays little attention to such things as they prefer to regale in American Idol, Dancing With the Stars, or whatever the popular show du jour is –that, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” All we need to do is look at the (not really) Federal Reserve to see where this process takes us, as Americans.  John Hylan, former mayor of New York City in the early 1920s, once stated that, “The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation”  Whether it’s control of the government, a “giant” octopus, the “military industrial complex,” a “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy,” or some “secret societies,” we’ve been both warned and forewarned again and again.  Though history suggests the masses will not listen, we as individuals can and should find ways to undo the chains that bind us down.

The person with whom my father was talking, like most of America, has yet to make that connection.  Anyone who suggests that it’s Obama on whom the blame should be placed neither understands the history of our nation, nor the real process behind electing a president.  I don’t suggest that I do understand either issue fully, but I can see the mechanics behind them both and am frankly not confident in the electoral process as it is presently constituted to bring about anything remotely resembling a positive change toward the system God would give us if we were willing.  Where many of those hailing from the tea party movement, or any party for that matter, miss the boat is in assuming that replacing Obama with a Republican will solve the problems.  Forget that this man has lost sight of the political process which follows when a President is removed from office (i.e., laws on the succession of the President due to poor health or death or whatever it may be), a new election will neither yield better results (absent a true 3rd party candidate), nor yield real change.  The powers that be are simply too deeply entrenched in the system to hope for anything different.

I don’t mean to sound like a pessimist, but in regards to our political system that’s exactly what I am.  Like the Nephites, our entire culture has generously shared in the spoils to such an extent that we simply do not understand the machinations going on behind the scenes, and most evidence suggests that we have no desire to understand these machinations.  Why?  Because we enjoy the spoils too much and because a “true” change away from Babylon would be too problematic and scary for all of us.  Be it money, wealth, benefits, favors, luxuries, ease of life or the false paradigms presented to us (i.e., the two party system, the main stream media as purveyors of truth, etc.), the spoils simply smell and taste too good to give away.  Like the Nephites, we’ve been seduced to such an extent that even when we think we’re “awake,” we’re confronted with more and more layers to the onion that is our screwed up society.  Like the Nephites, we’ve joined in the secret murders and combinations to such an extent that I wouldn’t be surprised if we all have blood on our hands in one way or another through our direct support of the whore that is Babylon.  Like the Nephites, we both believe in and thoroughly support the works of Babylon.  We drive her cars, watch her TV, listen to her false priests on the radio, buy her food, drink her milk, live in her houses, dress in her clothes and use her computers…to say nothing of the myriad of other things we do every day to support this Godless system.

Though I’d love to see a true 3rd or 4th or 5th party emerge from the ashes or our fallen nation, I simply don’t see it happening absent some cataclysmic event which is long overdue.  It’s not that I don’t want it, far from it, it’s that there are so many skewed and faulty beliefs, programs, policies, federal organizations and structures that need to be entirely swept away before any new candidate can hope to mold or re-shape the nation.  Then again, perhaps the American public will continue to believe that our elected officials and powers-that-be would never knowingly mislead us.

“The least you can do is investigate.  The minimum that is expected of you as a sentient being is to question your reality.  The minimum is that you realize that you are in a box, you are being controlled.  You are being fed.  You are having buttons in your mind pushed, and controlled… .”  – Alex Jones

Question everything.  Question your reality.  Question authority.  Question leadership.  Question the main stream media.  Question your existence.  Stop buying, serving and proliferating the lies you read, watch and listen to every day.  Stop being a pawn in someone’s sick and twisted game.  Stop the idolatry at the feet of Babylon.  Question.

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  1. Rick says:

    I Hope & Pray you hear me out, I just like yourself am troubled with our nation & it’s condition.
    And as I am a person of faith, at 49 yrs old, married, with 4 children, I’m a small business owner and an assistant Football coach at a local High School, I built my own business 24 years ago, and I can say God has been very faithful to me as I have remained Faithful to Him. Growing up in Las Vegas, I saw the Light & was drawn to God much sooner in life than most people, because I believe I was raised around so much darkness, greed, & sin. So I had given my life to Christ at age 20, I only give you a brief description of my past, in the hope that you as a person of faith, may have come to learn that you will know a tree by it’s fruit & my 29 years of following Christ,graduating from Bible College, working in prison ministries , juvenile hall ministries as a volunteer, and also as I was on the Nathan Adelson Hospice terminally ill spiritual bereavement counseling team, and many more youth groups, coaching little league baseball, football, soccer, etc I have lived a deeply gratifying life as I have attempted to be Salt & Light in a dark & corrupt world. And that being said, I hope that I might be able to relate to you, and hopefully reach your heart, with the message that God has laid upon my own heart, and I believe that it is clear that this message is for you and ALL who call themselves by His Name.
    First as a person of Faith,I’m sure you understand the battle we fight is against Darkness. Jesus said after calling his disciples who were fishermen, Christ said follow me & I will make you fishers of men. Then as Jesus was speaking to those who will follow Him, and that means you & I, Jesus said in Matthew 5:13 YOU ARE THE SALT OF THE EARTH, YET IF THE SALT SHOULD LOSE ITS SALTINESS HOW CAN IT BE MADE SALTY AGAIN? IT IS THEREFORE NO LONGER GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT TO BE TRAMPLED UNDER THE FOOT OF MAN.**
    For in the same way Jesus called the fishermen to be fishers of men. Jesus calls YOU & I once we have become Christians, to then BECOME THE SALT OF THE EARTH, and as you understand in the time of Christ there were no refrigerators so SALT was the PRESERVATIVE, that kept food’s from becoming foul, spoiled,or rotted, CHRIST calls us to BE A PRESERVATIVE OF GODLY VALUES, that is why as CHRISTIANS, we FIGHT for the life of the UNBORN, WE STAND UP FOR MARRIAGE & THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN & WOMAN, the word of GOD says woe to them who call good evil and evil good, and TODAY YOU live in a nation where they chastise and punish & attack CHRISTIANS, yet our NATION was founded by very devout CHRISTIAN MEN, and as our nation was started We origially mandated that every single day in public schools there would be a reading of the bible, and a prayer before the day started. If you check your history you will see that it all was destroyed when a Progressive, Liberal, man became our President, & this man Roosevelt Scattered the SEEDS that would eventually grow into the CORRUPT SINFUL & SELFISH, ME FIRST CULTURE OF SELF DESTUCTION, WHERE THE SALT LOST ITS SALTINESS, AND TODAY THE SALT IS BEING TRAMPLED UNDER THE FOOT OF MAN, YOU SEE IT NEVER WAS AN ACCEPTABLE THING TO CHASTISE AND REBUKE CHRISTIANS, BUT TODAY THE SEEDS HAVE GROWN FULLY, AND THE CHILDREN WHO HAD THE BIBLE RIPPED FROM THE GRIPS OF THEIR HANDS BY THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE PRAYERS THAT BECAME SILENCED, WHERE LITERALLY SCHOOLS THEN REPLACED PRAYER WITH 60 SECONDS OF SILENCE, TO 30 SECONDS OF SILENCE TO 15 SECONDS OF SILENCE, TO NOTHING TODAY… yes it was Theodore Roosevelt the man of evil that appointed more justices to the supreme court, than any other president except 1, Washington appointed 13, Roosevelt appointed 9, and after Roosevelt had his liberal and progressive, anti Christian way, in 1948 his justices became the majority in the supreme court then removed the Bible, then 11 yrs later removed prayer, then another 10 yrs after that Babies from the womb,were NO LONGER SAFE>>>>>>>>>

    “Obama covers cross at Georgetown”

    Then as you see all the statements where Obama said that America is among the worlds largest Muslim Nations, and then he states that emphatically we ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION!!! & HE SLAPS THE NATION OF ISRAEL IN THE FACE, BY DENYING BENJAMIN NETAYAHU PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL, BY LEAVING HIM SITTING IN A ROOM ALONE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF AND IT WAS SAID THAT OBAMA WENT OFF AND ATE LUNCH, AND DISSED BENJAMIN ON PURPOSE, BUT IT GOT OUT AND WHEN NETANYAHU WAS LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE OBAMA MADE HIM LEAVE IN A WAY THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE MEDIA TO TAKE 1 PICTURE!!! The reason, because Israel wants to build some apartments on land that the the PLO Palestinian’s dont want them to build on, so Obama sides with the TERRORISTS and treats Benjamin rude and wont sit with or visit with, but when it comes to IRAN who is BUILDING NUCLEAR BOMBS, obama will sitdown with him??? So my dear brother I am so sorry to go on and on, and you probably have not even read my message this far, yet if you have not I know God is my witness, that I do care for you & ask Gods will be done on earth as it is in heaven, And just as that scripture that calls on ALL OF US WHO ARE CHRISTIANS, TO BE THE SALT OF THE EARTH, I AM TELLING YOU THAT WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED YET WE KNOW IN THE END WHO WINS, BUT AS WE HAVE BEEN A NATION VERY MUCH LIKE ISRAEL, WHO WAS FOUNDED BY A HUGE GROUP OF GODLY MEN, VERY VERY SOLID MEN, WHO WERE MADE UP OF PASTORS, PREACHERS, DEACONS, AND DOWN RIGHT HONORABLE GREAT MEN OF PRAYER & FAITH, ALTHOUGH WE TODAY ARE THE RESULTS OF MANY PEOPLE WHO HAD ATTACKED OUR ABILITY TO BE RAISED UP IN THE FAITH AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, AND AS THAT WAS REMOVED BY A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT, THERE ARE STILL REMNANTS OF FAITH AMONGST OUR PEOPLE WHO TODAY ARE THE PRESERVATIVES, WE ARE CONSERVATIVES, WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CARRY THE TORCH, TO PRESERVE GODLY VALUES AND MORALS. Finally in 2 Chronicles 7:14 it states. IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, “CHRISTians” WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY, THEN TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAY’S, THEN I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN I WILL HEAR AND I WILL HEAL THEIR LAND!

    You see as these Progressives teach for the most part that they do not believe in God, yet they believe that they are on the road of evolution, and as they travel that road, they must explain why they keep changing the rules as they travel down a road of
    regression morally yet they have to make it sound palatable so they call it progress, yet when measured by Gods word it is the opposite….. Just as the book of Romans 1:18 states>> The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all godlessness & wickedness of men who suppress the truth
    by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them.Because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities His eternal Power and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened, although they claimed to be wise they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God, for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.///

    And today you see people will go out of their way to save animals, or whales, or like the Farmers in California who were forced to watch their crops of orange groves dry up and die, because of a fish. While all the same people watch 1 million three hundred & twenty thousand abortions, each year…..

    In closing, I remind you of the scripture once more where Christ Himself instructed us in Matthew 5:13 Where Jesus called us to be SALT, he also states “YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, A CITY ON A HILL CANNOT BE HIDDEN, AND NEITHER DO MEN LIGHT A LAMP THEN HIDE IT UNDER A BOWL, BUT RATHER THEY LIGHT A LAMP THEN SET IT ON A LAMP STAND SO THAT IT MAY GIVE LIGHT TO “ALL” WHO ARE IN THE
    ROOM. I challenge you brother, to take your LIGHT which is truth, Gods Word, and the knowledge of His truth then you as a light shine it so others can see the path they are to take, the way they should VOTE, you should be responsible enough to see the more conservative values are better than NO CONSERVATIVE values, also as Gods word states that WHO EVER IS NOT AGAINST US IS WITH US, Mark 9:41 /// So I pray that you will research this matter, and earnestly seek God, I know that God has instructed me to do my best, and as I have studied the Bible and teaching’s from C.S. Lewis, who wrote Mere Christianity, as long as the Nation of Israel kept God in their life and morality as important, they maintained God hand of Blessing, and just the same there are lessons in history time after time when Nations turn their Back on God, then failure, corruption, and strife soon followed. May your family be blessed, may you enjoy those times you get to spend with your Father, as I lost my dad, and your story really caught my heart. I thank you for your time, & I hope a little bit of light and salt, entered your heart,soul, and mind. May God draw you near to Himself, and pour out His eternal Blessing’s and knowledge, upon you. Rick Welte 702-521-0057

  2. Mike says:

    Rick,

    Thanks for the comment. Rest assured, I did read the entire thing because I appreciate the effort that obviously went into writing it.

    Where you see Roosevelt and the progressives as providing the soil and the seeds that have led to the current state of affairs, I see the degradation beginning many, many years before that. It neither began with one man, nor with one “label” (i.e. progressives). To give conservatives and republicans a free pass is to ignore the annals of history and the role everyone has played into the chain of events.

    The main issue I see is in this creation of dualities that we rely on to disseminate and categorize our arguments. Life, and certainly this situation, is far more complicated than that.

    Your take on the “salt” is likewise appreciated. Salt is a preservative, a flavoring and something that provides “savor”. The 1828 dictionary links “savor” with character, reputation and, perhaps more on point, “The quality which renders a thing valuable; the quality which renders other bodies agreeable to the taste.” Though I view the scriptures which talk of “salt” as representative of a covenant relationship, it is likewise true that an ancillary definition could be found in the loss of character and reputation – due to hypocrisy, which Christianity is known all too well for – and a loss of rendering something agreeable, largely because the salt no longer knows its use, having accepted its hypocritical nature.

    Thanks again for stopping by. I do appreciate the comment and thoughts.

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